The final Ashes Vodcast! | Key, Nasser, Atherton and Ward reflect on the 2022 Ashes Series

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  • 16/01/2022 को प्रकाशित
    Nasser Hussain, Michael Atherton, Rob Key and Ian Ward sat down to discuss England’s Ashes debacle, and to offer some solutions for the issues they face in red-ball cricket
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  • Uni Tech
    Uni Tech 4 महीने पहले +1182

    This vodcast lasted longer than England's batting.

    • RP TALKS
      RP TALKS 3 महीने पहले

      So true 🤣🤣🤣

    • Abhishek Shekhawat
      Abhishek Shekhawat 3 महीने पहले


    • Faran
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    • Hassan Naqvi
      Hassan Naqvi 4 महीने पहले


    • Progressive VKY
      Progressive VKY 4 महीने पहले

      @Joe 33 🤣💯

  • Jandré Gerber
    Jandré Gerber 4 महीने पहले +325

    You guys should've included Djokovic in this vodcast, it took Australia 2 weeks to get him out.

    • Ved Sahasrabhojanee
      Ved Sahasrabhojanee महीने पहले

      Well done

      DAVID PARRIS 2 महीने पहले

      Don't look here , look over there. Don't blame you for trying change the focus away from such a disaster that is English the moment but tomorrow is another day.

    • Maqsood Ahmad
      Maqsood Ahmad 3 महीने पहले

      @jxswu well done

    • Jandré Gerber
      Jandré Gerber 3 महीने पहले

      @bina ramani I'm South African

    • bina ramani
      bina ramani 3 महीने पहले

      U r an Aussie. English people dont have any wits.

  • F. G Dumbura
    F. G Dumbura 4 महीने पहले +192

    Michael Vaughan was right, England have an unhealthy obsession with the Ashes and that is their downfall. You spend years planning for Australia and get thrashed, it sucks the confidence out of the players going to the Carribean. Good luck on your rebuilding England. Kudos to these four blokes, they are absolute top class.

    • Damon Clarke
      Damon Clarke 4 महीने पहले

      @Nick Black 🙄

    • Nick Black
      Nick Black 4 महीने पहले +1

      @Damon Clarke seems that the English cricket pundits will beg to differ though. You can't spend years planning for an Ashes because there's more to test cricket than just the Ashes. The conditions you encounter in the Ashes could also be completely different to what you planned for, Australia's green tops case in point

    • Damon Clarke
      Damon Clarke 4 महीने पहले

      We don’t spend years of planning for the Australian ashes series at all? That is the problem.

    • Vincent Ho
      Vincent Ho 4 महीने पहले +1

      @Nick Black India yes. NZ we beat too regularly for the media dn the general public to care too much about

  • Thomas George
    Thomas George 4 महीने पहले +49

    Mark Wood was the stand out man. He bowled his heart out whenever he was given the ball. That dude has the heart of a LION.

    • Ragnar
      Ragnar 4 महीने पहले +2

      He was excellent his ability to stay fit and injury free has helped England so much in terms of having a fast guy who's reliable.

    • Leigh Frayling
      Leigh Frayling 4 महीने पहले +5

      Agree with this, hasn't been given any credit

  • heywoodf
    heywoodf 4 महीने पहले +79

    Thanks for your insightful and well articulated cricket views.
    As an Australian supporter there is the pleasure of beating the old enemy. But also there's a sadness that the Ashes excitement from great competitive English teams and players has been absent for so long. Those monumental competitions are the ones that become etched in the sports lover's memory, bring the most prised and valued victories.
    As for Nasser Hussain, Michael Atherton and Rob Key I'm glad they're not on the ECB board. They would bring too much common sense that might make England overly competitive.

  • Gamemaniac
    Gamemaniac 4 महीने पहले +106

    As an Australian, I really do enjoy listening to English commentators’ analysis of a match/series. They tend to be more insightful than Australian commentators (Ricky Ponting the exception). In saying that, you don’t need many words to describe this series for the English, just the word abysmal would suffice.

    • Israel Hands
      Israel Hands 4 महीने पहले

      We'll always have bodyline, and how you jokers tried to make Larwood apologise for being too good, so get stuffed 😑

    • Robert Docherty
      Robert Docherty 4 महीने पहले

      @Maverick Buckley absolutely correct

    • Abhinandan Singh
      Abhinandan Singh 4 महीने पहले +3

      its always fun to listen to pain and agony of opposition team media and ex players after the win.

    • David T62
      David T62 4 महीने पहले +9

      Oh I am Australian too and this would be painful beyond belief had we lost. Easy to enjoy when your on the winner side

    • Maverick Buckley
      Maverick Buckley 4 महीने पहले +9

      @John H Yeah Aussie commentators ON Aus channels(different to BT) are FAR more brutal than the English. It feels like English are really really neutral, regardless of how well they're doing. Almost to a fault. Just this afternoon I heard Junior saying 'You'd frighten the Poms even now!' The English are too polite. Too political correct.

  • Abhishek Rao M
    Abhishek Rao M 4 महीने पहले +115

    Oh yes. Was waiting for all this since yesterday. Can listen to Nas and Athers all day. Key and Wardy are very good too. And the sad part is English batting didn't last as long as this vodcast. And I have a question, why don't these vodcasts reach England team and help them make a better decision ? Surely, Joe Root has to watch this.

    • Mr Kipling
      Mr Kipling महीने पहले

      @Simon Baldock he’s just been appointed by England to replace Ashley Giles. I think it’s a very good appointment and he’ll do a great job. I wish him luck.

    • Simon Baldock
      Simon Baldock 4 महीने पहले

      I have more time for Key than i ever have for nasser as a commentator and a pundit. Nasser is too "careful" (and commentates in nothing but cliches). Key is more forthright and has decent insight IMHO. Nasser was a great captain, no doubt - and definitely the captain England needed at the time but as a pundit or analyst he's way too careful.

    • Ryan Mitchell
      Ryan Mitchell 4 महीने पहले

      Honest appraisal? 1/72 by Broad in Adelaide...not good enough. First innings

    • Dark Raider047
      Dark Raider047 4 महीने पहले +6

      @Mr Kipling England should hire Alastair Cook as batting coach...especially on their tours to India..I still remember how he dominated the lethal Indian spin-attack in series in India in 2012

    • Mahit
      Mahit 4 महीने पहले +3

      If Jack leach wasnt played in the first test and England conceded 400 runs with over rate problem. The same guys would be telling why they didn't pick him lol. In hindsight there are many things you can point out but it is not correct

  • The Gibberish Singer
    The Gibberish Singer 4 महीने पहले +39

    The ideas Rob Key throws in are worth listening to. I enjoy these vodcasts because of him. He's top class.

    • Ryan Mitchell
      Ryan Mitchell 4 महीने पहले

      big forehead is not worth...0

  • Pratyush Sharma
    Pratyush Sharma 4 महीने पहले +155

    You can listen to these guys for hours and not be bored.

    • raknoknak
      raknoknak 4 महीने पहले

      @lars kefka language skills? lol

    • Hardik Gupta
      Hardik Gupta 4 महीने पहले


    • lars kefka
      lars kefka 4 महीने पहले +7

      Nasser is incredible with his language skills. he can easily be a great author I recon.

  • Rob Cord
    Rob Cord 4 महीने पहले +13

    This is the most brilliant Vodcast. Ward hosts it very well by asking the right questions. Long may this continue.

  • Will Goodall
    Will Goodall 4 महीने पहले +74

    There was optimism going in to this series, but anybody that's watched England in tests over the past 2 years realistically knew we never really had a chance. This was a whitewash in all but scoreline

    • Tim Jones
      Tim Jones 4 महीने पहले

      @Toria 😉

    • Toria
      Toria 4 महीने पहले +2

      @Tim Jones Grade cricketers

    • Tim Jones
      Tim Jones 4 महीने पहले +8

      4.9 - 0………..🤷‍♂️

    • DaveOz
      DaveOz 4 महीने पहले +8

      4-0 is still a whitewash, even if rain denied Australia the one wicket required to make it 5-0

  • Mr Kipling
    Mr Kipling 4 महीने पहले +29

    As much as the series was depressing, I’ve actually been waiting for this. The frustrating thing is that we’ve kept Warner and Smith pretty quiet compared to previous Ashes series, especially in Australia. I hope this is the rock bottom that will see our test team sorted out for the better. The hope is that we see something similar happen to when we were last at rock bottom in the Caribbean in 2009. The difference then was that we had genuinely world class players in KP, Bell, Strauss, Cook, Prior etc. We don’t have that now. It’s going to be a long job and we need to appoint the right coach and people in charge.

    • Mr Kipling
      Mr Kipling 4 महीने पहले

      I didn’t go to a private school and I still played cricket. At school. Also with my friends in the park and in the nets not far from my house.

    • genuine guy
      genuine guy 4 महीने पहले

      @Hastnaam Haas???

    • Hastnaam Haas
      Hastnaam Haas 4 महीने पहले +1

      @genuine guy ??

    • genuine guy
      genuine guy 4 महीने पहले

      @Hastnaam Haas Cricket is still accessible, kids can go and play club cricket, right?

    • Hastnaam Haas
      Hastnaam Haas 4 महीने पहले +5

      Hey, can you tell me why Only Private schools plays cricket and not every other school including public school in England? And why hasn't an effort been made to make cricket accessible to those schools?

  • markatkinson167
    markatkinson167 4 महीने पहले +28

    I like Rob's thoughts on the structure of the season. That makes perfect sense. I cannot see any reason why that shouldn't be done

  • Ste Chapo
    Ste Chapo 4 महीने पहले +22

    I was happy to be able to watch SA India series that finished few days ago, nice to watch competitive test cricket and forget about the embarrassing shambolic England debacle.

  • Alex Warner
    Alex Warner 4 महीने पहले +66

    Most Aussies like me feel a little the same, really glad we won an Ashes series easily - but a bit disappointed there wasn’t really any competition.

    • Maverick Buckley
      Maverick Buckley 4 महीने पहले +1

      @David Holgate Everything you've said is EXACTLY what it's been at my son's Primary and High School. More concentrating on transgenderism and foreign politicians than sport.

    • Maverick Buckley
      Maverick Buckley 4 महीने पहले +1

      @David Holgate Check this out. My boy started cricket when he was 3 or 4. By the time ge was 7 he was bowling me without me letting him (and maybe that says more about me 😆) by 8 we'd got him in a very big village/ town team. That folded by 10 so I moved him. There were maybe 12 kids from a town of 11,000. The first tear they were just playing French cricket. End if the season there progressing and a neighbouring tien offers up a game. The game is put off and then never played. Now 13 he STILL hasn't played more than 2 games of proper cricket but he's plated 130 games of football and I'd never say this to him but his bowling is maybe less good now than at 7 with just me coaching him.
      It's partly being in East Anglia but.. I wonder how common that is.

    • Royal Boy
      Royal Boy 4 महीने पहले +1

      @David Holgate still winning twice in australia is huge that too with c side against lethal australia attack

    • Girish Chand
      Girish Chand 4 महीने पहले

      @Maverick Buckley by this logic NZ should have been a poor test side as they hve same geographical features. Still they atleast put up a show in sb cntinent n agnst in aus.

    • David Holgate
      David Holgate 4 महीने पहले +2

      @Royal Boy Excuses, excuses! India are a good team, not a great team... The great teams of the past wouldnt have lost as many games that India have lost in recent times.

  • Martin Cooper
    Martin Cooper 4 महीने पहले +6

    These vodcasts are unmissable. Just love Rob Keys passion and he talks alot of sense 👏

  • Snehil
    Snehil 4 महीने पहले +94

    Probably won't miss the series but sure will miss these vodcasts.

    • Mr Kipling
      Mr Kipling 4 महीने पहले

      @Adam cocker I’m not sure. BT might have the rights for a while. Even if Sky don’t have the rights to show it we’ll still get these brilliant vodcasts during the series in the Caribbean and beyond.

    • Harsha
      Harsha 4 महीने पहले


    • Adam cocker
      Adam cocker 4 महीने पहले +5

      Don't worry I don't think sky have the rights fir the West indies vs England series. So you should get some more vodcasts

  • Mark Temple
    Mark Temple 4 महीने पहले +3

    I’m surprised no one mentioned the technical and temperament flaws of the England players.
    The SA/ India series saw bowler friendly decks but the batters who succeeded showed good technique and a lot of guts. There was very little of that on display from the English team.

  • Jason Trow
    Jason Trow 4 महीने पहले +14

    Great vodcast, love listening to this panel. England are a shambles but I do believe we have the players and talent to be much more competitive and challenge against better teams. It could actually be an exciting time ahead......however we are run horrendously by incompetent management including Giles, Silverwood, and Root. Under them there will be no progress!

  • nadeem syed
    nadeem syed 4 महीने पहले +17

    Excellent solution presented by Rob Key and he is spot on with making age group cricket free for all.
    Good discussion but he shined today in this debate in his analysis not to say others were not good either.

  • Archie Fox
    Archie Fox 4 महीने पहले +15

    Mark Wood was fantastic in this game. Crawley showed promise.

  • Deepak Mohan
    Deepak Mohan 4 महीने पहले +21

    More than the test match was waiting for this panel to discuss what happened 🤘🏻 thanks sky 😄

  • Perry Stalsis' World of Biology
    Perry Stalsis' World of Biology 4 महीने पहले +8

    As an Aussie, I would just have liked to see England fight it out a bit more in the 5th test.

  • AndyW_UK
    AndyW_UK 4 महीने पहले +5

    The solution to this seems obvious to me: split the formats completely, in the same way as Rugby League and Rugby Union are completely different disciplines. That way, the schedule crowding doesn't matter because no players will be playing cross-format, reducing the amount of cricket played by each player, and money from the white ball game can subsidise the red ball game. The only issue would be managing fixtures within the available grounds, but most counties have more than one ground they play some games at, anyway.

  • Jacques C
    Jacques C 4 महीने पहले +1

    loving the vodcasts! been great to hear from past english stars. amazing detailed insights on english cricket..

  • paul oshannassy
    paul oshannassy 4 महीने पहले +10

    going to miss this … you guys have been fantastic !

  • Tom
    Tom 4 महीने पहले +7

    As an Aussie, here is my take :
    - At the risk of sounding like captain obvious, it is the batting that is clearly the main issue for England.
    - Bowling out Australia for 155, they again had chances in this Test match as they had in every Test, but the batting let them down again.
    - The problem was the same in every match, they would have a good batting partnership, 1 player would get out, then the team collapses.
    - They just needed to play cautiously and get through the difficult night session, then they could attack the target during the day. They played some bad shots, another batting collapse, game over.
    - However, I don't think we can gloat too much. We have a good record here in our conditions but we haven't won in England since 2001.
    - England can fix their red ball cricket. They have shown with white ball cricket and the olympics, if they really want to focus on fixing something, they can do it.

  • Chinna Reddy
    Chinna Reddy 4 महीने पहले +2

    As a Test Cricket fan, I just loved the insights!

  • Suraj
    Suraj 4 महीने पहले +6

    I enjoyed watching this Vodcast than whole Ashes series. There was no literally competition from English team given to Aussies. Our C team beat Aussie and English is struggling against them.

    • Ashmit Roy
      Ashmit Roy 4 महीने पहले

      And our a team got badly defeated by a not so great southa frican team..this happens no big deal

  • Peter Baldwin
    Peter Baldwin 4 महीने पहले +8

    Quite understandably, there is never a mention of the lack of terrestrial tv coverage of Test Match cricket. Think back to 2005 and the nation was gripped due to Channel 4 broadcasting the matches live and the grounds were full! That is when young cricketers get inspired.

    • Simon King
      Simon King 4 महीने पहले +1

      They won't mention it, it's a sky vodcast...

  • ploddodd
    ploddodd 4 महीने पहले

    Was greatly looking forward to this breakdown. Good stuff as usual. Red ball cricket needs switching up.

  • Andrew D
    Andrew D 4 महीने पहले

    As a triumphant, but far from conceited Aussie, congratulations in all sincerity to you four blokes! 👏🏼 Terrific vodcasts, by four intelligent, articulate, cricket savvy gents. I hope to see England rebound down the track. As it is, it’s just not cricket is it?🤭👍🏼😎🇦🇺

  • bigbrockbear
    bigbrockbear 4 महीने पहले +8

    I love Cricket, I have done since the '05 Ashes but I don't understand how the English Cricket summer is organised, seems to be all over the place. If I knew when games were on & it was structured properly it would be hell of a lot easier to follow. Well said Rob.

    • Very Survival
      Very Survival 4 महीने पहले

      It’s not organized. That’s the problem :-)

  • ch0pst1xZ1
    ch0pst1xZ1 4 महीने पहले +3

    Nasser seems like he's about to cry. So bloody passionate! Would any of these guys be willing to take the head coaching job? They've clearly got the brains for it.

  • Herbert A
    Herbert A 4 महीने पहले +28

    These vodcast were more interesting than the ashes.

    • Ying Yang
      Ying Yang 4 महीने पहले +1

      longer as well

  • Alpha 06
    Alpha 06 4 महीने पहले +39

    1 hour...oh yes! The only thing more disappointing to me than English batting was the fact that a batter got the MC medal. Like there were so many options to choose from in the bowling. I personally would've went with Starc.

    • Mik
      Mik 4 महीने पहले

      @Tom I would have given it to Hameed haha

    • Tom
      Tom 4 महीने पहले +3

      Head won two tests himself. I think 4 or 5 players could have got it though.

    • Mik
      Mik 4 महीने पहले

      Yeah I agree when I Think of the player of the series I don’t think about head

    • Jan
      Jan 4 महीने पहले +2

      In perfect bowling conditions, best batsman should generally get the award in my opinion

    • Nooneknows 2021
      Nooneknows 2021 4 महीने पहले +8

      Nah I feel like in a bowler dominated series a batsman definitely deserved the medal.

  • Giles Guthrie
    Giles Guthrie 4 महीने पहले

    Four sensible guys with a deep love for the game. Let's hope the ECB is listening. Please keep up these vodcasts.

  • Vijay Ramesh
    Vijay Ramesh 4 महीने पहले +4

    Really waited till yesterday. Finally here it is! The Best cricket Vodcast!

  • Rajesh Gosain
    Rajesh Gosain 4 महीने पहले

    Nas is spot on. I took my son to play on Mumbai. He played in a 30 over game and the boys rocked up to play technically correct cricket. It was beautiful to see. Mind you our team still scored 239 for 8 in 30 others.

  • Dhawal
    Dhawal 4 महीने पहले +2

    I absolutely LOVE this group, hopefully Sky Sports keep them for all TEST series that England plays.
    Thank you guys, please bring an episode for Australia vs England Women Test match too!

  • MDV
    MDV 4 महीने पहले

    Aussie here..... the analysis is great... good to always hear the perspective of the opposition. Delivered perfectly and professionally. I hope the ECB listens... as much as as I love the aussie victory... i still think the value is in the competition.... one sided series are only so fun.. ........

  • sticksman1979
    sticksman1979 4 महीने पहले +10

    I’ve enjoyed these vodcasts more than the series.

  • aru4912
    aru4912 4 महीने पहले +6

    Was so looking forward to this ! Loving it

  • Tabrejali Adam
    Tabrejali Adam 4 महीने पहले

    Great work to all concerned. All 4 are a credit to our unique sport.
    Hopefully the decision makers are listening to these knowledgable people.

  • Brian Sukhu
    Brian Sukhu 4 महीने पहले +6

    As usual Athertons points hit the nail on the head.
    It was a sprint, prepare and play your best team for the upcoming test. England were not in a position to save certain players for specific test matches.

  • fossilmatic
    fossilmatic 4 महीने पहले

    Great analysis and discussion. Test cricket will always represent a far greater challenge than the white ball game. There would be very few true legends whose reputation is solely on the basis of performances in the one day, let alone the twenty over form. Whatever its merits, a comic book does not have the scope of a novel for drama, narrative or development of character. The same for short form vs test cricket. But players have to continue to aspire to it. That’s not about playing one form off against the other. It’s about how people want to see themselves as players and who their role models are.

  • Jbhav10
    Jbhav10 4 महीने पहले +2

    Love Rob Key’s ideas near the end of the video. Totally agree with it.

  • Yamhead400
    Yamhead400 4 महीने पहले +49

    "The pink ball test we allegedly win but never do" LMAO Nas

    • CountMackula
      CountMackula 4 महीने पहले +2


    • Dark Raider047
      Dark Raider047 4 महीने पहले +1

      England have historically done well and dominated in Pink ball tests...they haven't lost any pink ball test apart from this series in Adelaide and Hobart!!

    • Nothing
      Nothing 4 महीने पहले +4

      Cracked me up 🤣🤣😉

    • Shahmi Anas
      Shahmi Anas 4 महीने पहले +6

      🤣🤣 second time I've heard him say that ... savage

    RANJEET RAWAT 4 महीने पहले

    These guys are genius … cricket analysis is fantastic compare to any other, by far … I would love watching them in a Netflix series 😊

  • Josh Forde
    Josh Forde 4 महीने पहले +1

    Short term thinking is sometimes useful. When I first got into cricket Thorpe was out of the team with personal problems. Thorpe was 34 and had played 79 tests, a lot of people thought it was time to move onto the future with the team Vaughan was building (Bell, Pietersen, Collingwood and Strauss had yet to debut). They brought Thorpe back, he got a hundred in the last test against SA, four more and an average of 56 for the remainder of his career.
    *I am well aware there isn't a Graham Thorpe lurking in the shadows of county cricket.

  • Paul Meaden
    Paul Meaden 4 महीने पहले +4

    I love the passion from nasser and Rob. They really care about the game as much as the fans , maybe even more

    • Paul Meaden
      Paul Meaden 4 महीने पहले

      @Tilak Patel probably, although it's impossible to know.

    • Tilak Patel
      Tilak Patel 4 महीने पहले +2

      Definitely care more than fans since they themselves have represented England

  • Peter Stephen
    Peter Stephen 4 महीने पहले +1

    Hi All great vodcast, very honest and to the point. As an Aussie our team has it's problems, mainly in the batting. But one point that think is not being considered is the 2019 Ashes.
    We very confident of winning that series we didn't want a draw it we expected to win it. England forcing a draw has hidden so of the problems in English cricket and made our boys more determined to win

  • Asim Khan
    Asim Khan 4 महीने पहले

    Naseer and Atherton ...are on another level of cricket Genius Experts Unbiased gentle Classy brief etc.....
    You can listen to them whole day

  • mohamed saji
    mohamed saji 4 महीने पहले +2

    This make me watch cricket with some more awarness and knowledge. Thank everyone for giving these kind of brief analysis. U guys r awesome 💪🏻✌️💯

  • naveed hussain
    naveed hussain 4 महीने पहले

    the 4-0 in 1991 is different to this version of 4-0 loss in 2022. you might have to select 3 dedicated teams for each version of the game. a dedicated test team, t20 and 50 over teams. otherwise im sure athers can come out of retirement and show them how to bat all day.

  • bluegorf
    bluegorf 4 महीने पहले +1

    Clearly part of the problem is that there are too many “good blokes.” England needs someone with a bit of mongrel in them. Australia are blessed to have a coach that has that. JL has been a huge part of the recovery of Australian cricket since the sandpaper controversy. Having a coach as a selector can’t be a thing, what player is going to go to a coach for advice when they know that coach is also a selector. Joe Root is not a captain, his bowlers clearly don’t listen to him. Mark Wood has been the one bright spark for England this tour. As an Australian this seres has been disappointing. I’ve seen England lose 5-0 out here and still be far more competitive.
    You want something that should be an easy fix, fix the fielding. England’s fielding has been largely dreadful. Make it a priority.

  • Europa 1
    Europa 1 4 महीने पहले +2

    Good suggestions from Keys on restructuring the county game.

  • Kadambini Narang
    Kadambini Narang 4 महीने पहले +1

    Surprisingly no one mentioned James Taylor taking the bulk of selection decisions sitting thousands of miles away in the UK from the team in Australia. He also got A LOT wrong

  • Harsha
    Harsha 4 महीने पहले

    The notion of Broad as an interim Captain sounds good actually. Remember, it was him before the sydney test , spoke candidly to media about Englands batting and I think I saw man who really cares about test cricket and was hurting. Sure , he acts selfish at times in terms of his place in the side but he believes he can make a difference and he DOES prove himself more often than not. Moreover, has a really good cricket nous. Oddly enough i see a bit of Kohli in him...

  • Induransi Chandrasekara
    Induransi Chandrasekara 4 महीने पहले +2

    Loved the interview!
    Last position in the WTC table and still joe root requesting a chance to continue his captaincy is something you guys can appreciate because he loves test cricket. So you need that love and passionate for this team. But you guys need to change the structure. That’s all true.

    • Tilak Patel
      Tilak Patel 4 महीने पहले +1

      I think root is the only option for captain. Can’t be stokes and everyone else isn’t even a regular in the team. Unless we give burns the captaincy because of his oh so gritty attitude

  • Tim Crowther
    Tim Crowther 4 महीने पहले +2

    Good on yer Keysie. Tell it like it is 👏👏👏

  • Deepak Tiwari
    Deepak Tiwari 4 महीने पहले +1

    So you want England to do well. Fine, it might sound superstitious, but do this vodcast at least weekly going forward as well. Ha ha.
    On a serious note, please continue this vodcast. I speak for a majority of cricket lovers at least here in India, that not only you guys knowno cricket, your analysis is soothing to ears as well. We get chance to see and hear pure cricket and nothing else only with you guys at least for now.
    So please continue. Thanks

  • Nafees Iqbal
    Nafees Iqbal 4 महीने पहले +17

    England have had a lot of issues especially in Test Cricket.
    A lot went wrong for England.
    Selection, preperation, structure, planning, personnel etc. The idea that a person (Silverwood) can be a coach, selector etc all-in-one package is ludicrous.
    There were signs of in-fighting. Batsman blaming bowlers & vice-versa. The captain not stamping his authority with poor tactics/field settings etc.
    Rotation / chop & changing the team.
    Now the blame game will begin however you cant blame the counties as they were not the ones who picked the team.
    However there is a change needed in the county championship in terms of when its played & pitches provided.
    The red ball game needs repairing & most important need to be showed its love & respect because the white ball format is having all the glory at the minute.
    There wont be enough time for an inquiry, especially as the next test match vs the West Indies is round the corner.
    England are favs for the test series vs the Windies, however England have only won one test series in the Windies backyard in 50 years with their last success being in 2004.
    Root is a great cricketer however he is not fit to be a test captain. James Vince needs to be (test) captain.
    Silverwood may be a great coach in the white ball however in red ball, his record is atrocious. He should be replaced by Gary Kirsten especially as a test coach (at the very least).

    • Ritwik Ghorui
      Ritwik Ghorui 4 महीने पहले +1

      @Archie Fox actually more than skill I think you need tremendous self belief to win down under. English test players these days don't have a stomach for fight. India's first team too would probably have lost that series.

    • Archie Fox
      Archie Fox 4 महीने पहले +1

      @Ritwik Ghorui Superb team. I love Indian cricket.

    • Ritwik Ghorui
      Ritwik Ghorui 4 महीने पहले

      @Archie Fox what about an India A team who thrashed this Australia at home?

    • Archie Fox
      Archie Fox 4 महीने पहले

      Covid has made cricket tough especially for the touring team.

  • James C
    James C 4 महीने पहले +3

    Expat Aussie here (now living in UK) enjoying this immensely on one level, but also on another level just shaking my head at how bad the England team were across the entire series. But for a bit of weather, would have been a whitewash, and that would have really been a true reflection of the series. England were simply appalling and things have got to change in their system - root and branch (pardon the pun). If they do not change, the ashes could soon be redundant. In fact test cricket itself could be under threat, and if you lose that, you lose the backbone and soul of the game.

    • SEEKER64
      SEEKER64 4 महीने पहले

      England are always bad in Oz, this isn't a one off, England have only won one Ashes series there since 1986, we can never handle the Aussie quick bowlers, its that simple, Jofa Archer would have helped us but our batting was awful.

  • flbyrne39
    flbyrne39 4 महीने पहले +2

    All I can add is that it’s a good job for this miserable bunch of no hopers that the late great Bob Willis departed this life far too early.
    I would have loved to hear his comments on this bunch of talentless failures and the current clueless management structure.
    A great loss to cricket!

  • Monika Mohil
    Monika Mohil 4 महीने पहले +1

    Excellent and very honest analysis 👏

  • AJ Elliott
    AJ Elliott 4 महीने पहले +3

    Im saying this from my own experience. I grew up in Maidenhead near Reading and was in the Berkshire colts squad from the age of 11 to 16 and never got to play a game, me and 1 of my m8s who was of caribbean descent were always the 1s to miss out. This isnt bitterness i used to be an opener and for 3 out of 6 years had a batting avg in the top 5 consistently and had a really bowing avg but never got a go. Cricket hasn't just got a racism problem, elitism is a better description it links both ur race and ur background

  • Ibrahim
    Ibrahim 4 महीने पहले +2

    Just want to mention how good these discussions are, and that is coming from a Norwegian-pakistani cricket fan!

  • Nilesh Pandey
    Nilesh Pandey 4 महीने पहले +17

    The amount of criticism and love for cricket could be seen in the face of these people is Amazing. They are just brutal honest can’t see anyone bashing there team like this in India.
    @starsports we need something like this

    • Rio Koyikkara
      Rio Koyikkara 4 महीने पहले +3

      The fans do the bashing instead 🤣

  • Keith Phair
    Keith Phair 4 महीने पहले +1

    these reflection talk throughs have been more enjoyable than the actual test cricket.

  • Anush Rajapaksha
    Anush Rajapaksha 4 महीने पहले

    The issue with England batting is the over reliance on Joe Root and Ben Stokes , this was clearly shown when these two got out early in the 2nd inning of 3rd test and 5th test where the rest of the batting line up got out like sitting ducks. This is what happened to us Sri Lankans when Sanga,Mahela and Dilshan were playing and once they all retired we were in trouble for quite some time.

  • TheCharcoalchicken
    TheCharcoalchicken 4 महीने पहले +2

    England's bowling wasn't atrocious, they need better spin options though..
    the batting on the other hand is diabolical - borderline non-competetive

  • Roopesh K Kurup
    Roopesh K Kurup 4 महीने पहले +1

    All through the last 2 years, Eng kept rotating and resting players focusing the ashes, all the while neglecting the series at hand....and when the D day came...anticlimax!!!...😳 Feel sorry only for one man....the machine...Ben Stokes😰😰😰....Eng should have taken a leaf out of how India handled the famed Aussie attack, despite not making 500 plus scores all the time...☺️

  • jsTekkers
    jsTekkers 4 महीने पहले

    Really liked Rob Key’s structure for county cricket, I could see that working tbh

  • Matthew
    Matthew 4 महीने पहले

    I love how close they were to calling out the hundred for the absolute mess that it is then remembering they worked for Sky and having to heap faux praise on it.
    The ECB's bullheaded manner in pursuing that nonsense whilst neglecting the pitfalls of test cricket is a national disgrace. And for what? A competition that was milked for being full of electric atmospheres despite being played in half-empty stadiums and those they did get in were more often than not free tickets given out to local clubs to market the "younger audience" image.
    Time for the ECB to go back to basics.

  • Sharif Badmash
    Sharif Badmash 4 महीने पहले

    Only one missing in this vodcast Bumble would have loved to hear his thoughts and can you imagine Bob wills bless his soul

  • bluesque
    bluesque 4 महीने पहले +6

    Ashes is also a contest between the two oldest cricket institutions and how they have been preparing, and what is the state of their cricket structure..! That's why it hurts!!!
    Was it possible to send the Ireland team to play Ashes instead of England?!!
    Had England gone in with no hopes except for mischief to cause delays in Australian wins (nothing too irritating), and had taken it slow and not rushed it-- got a good tan!!... then they might have fared better!!!

  • Chris Yee
    Chris Yee 4 महीने पहले +11

    As an Aussie supporter I actually hoped England would win that last test. As Nasser said, our batting team is very brittle (as exploited by the India B side last year) so was hoping a loss would shake things up (ie a new coach for one)

    • Chris Yee
      Chris Yee 4 महीने पहले

      @Runaway Puppet lol! Fair enough. You're right; call it a moment of weakness after drinking too much on the last day (and not getting to drink on day 4 & 5!) I'll see if my attitude changes after the upcoming tours.

    • Runaway Puppet
      Runaway Puppet 4 महीने पहले

      @Pilkie101 we’ve got one.. Will Pucovski… he was selected last year and immediately made runs. He has had concussion issues and is recovering. As soon as he’s fit he’ll play!

    • Runaway Puppet
      Runaway Puppet 4 महीने पहले +1

      You can’t be a full blooded Aussie if you want the Poms to win an Ashes test!
      If you are, it’s straight to the Kangaroo re education school for you sonny!

    • Chris Yee
      Chris Yee 4 महीने पहले

      @Craig Edwards not sure where you read in my comment that I'm barracking for anyone but Australia. I love winning the Ashes (and I'm pretty sure I'll re-watch Bolands 6 for 7 on loop for the rest of my life) but I'm not going to pretend that our batting side still doesn't have problems. I was absolutely gutted when we lost to India last year; our bowlers gave it their all but our batting was horrendous. I'm hoping Head can really cement the no.5 spot (I am happy he proved me wrong this series after I had repeatedly called him the "walking wicket").
      As for England? You can still have sympathy (remember when Australia had to look hard at our own setup to rebuild?) and yet enjoy beating them!

    • Craig Edwards
      Craig Edwards 4 महीने पहले

      There's nothing worse than an imposter, especially one that is barracking for the other side. All of these comments saying "I felt sorry for England", and "I'm an Aussie, but" go and follow something else. Have you read youtube or anything else before? Most of everyone can't wait to crap on Australia when they get beaten. Especially the king's of the inferiority complexes: "We're important, we'll bring up everytime we beat Australia" like the Indians. I don't even know why they're even posting on this!!

  • Relevant Brother
    Relevant Brother 4 महीने पहले +1

    SA and India provide a clue when there isn't sufficient batting talent available.. Both sides went with 5 specialist bowlers to focus on their strongest suit for the conditions ie fast bowling. Also the opposition would likely not prepare such sporty pitches facing guys like Archer, Wood, Stone, Broad.. Sadly injury prevented such selection. In future I feel England should choose these guys as the main bowling foursome with Anderson rotating with Broad.

  • Kieren Bushnell
    Kieren Bushnell 4 महीने पहले +4

    Athers got it spot on. Mirror the international schedule, ditch The Hundred, a pointless competition that no other country plays.

  • Julfikar Al Nahian Rozen
    Julfikar Al Nahian Rozen 4 महीने पहले +4

    Nasser Hussain you are favorite commentator, I really love your verbal communication skill. Not only that I try to apply this in my corporate life.. Long live NASH…

  • Pramit Mitra
    Pramit Mitra 2 महीने पहले

    One can keep listening to these discussions without being bored a bit. Nasser is just brilliant. ❤️

  • Richy Batty
    Richy Batty 4 महीने पहले +1

    Crawley , Root , Stokes ( when fit ) and Bairstow were the only batters I'd keep on . Wood , Broad , Anderson ( when fit ) for the bowlers ...

  • Emmerson Boyce
    Emmerson Boyce 4 महीने पहले +1

    Love Keys honest answers, needed.

  • Adam Ashbourne
    Adam Ashbourne 4 महीने पहले

    I found it strange that they didn’t consider Paul Fabrice when talking about England coaches. He was in the previous set up, knows the players and (unlike the previous coach) loves Test cricket.

    TRAITORS GATE 4 महीने पहले

    It all comes from the top trickles down to the youngsters start producing fast pitches and oh yes players willing to fight not wanting to come home early give those who travelled to support them there money back.

  • Raj Mellvin
    Raj Mellvin 4 महीने पहले +3

    As an Indian fan.. i can feel what england are going through. But kohli and shastri (2 aggressive mindsets channeled), root and silverwood are defensive mindsets which doesnt work out in tests. Get an agressive coach or captain and u can see results. Just dont bank upon swing bowlers like anderson and broad. U need bowlers like wood in australia and SA

    • education World
      education World 4 महीने पहले

      Mike played as captain in england side can they identify another mike as far i know England would have done much better if joe root would have taken better decision and since 3rd test against India in Ahmedabad he is so poor in reading condition and selecting best 11

    • education World
      education World 4 महीने पहले

      Definitely agree with you but they don't have any option other than root , stokes as much i know stokes is not ready to takeover so i feel can England do a greame smith here with zak crawley nonetheless i don't know the age of zak

  • Udai Kandalama
    Udai Kandalama 4 महीने पहले

    How on earth did English cricket become so fascicle! Really sad how its all ended up. I hope they learn from this and create some consistency and mental fortitude with players, you would think all these big shots were paid to these simple things, geez...

  • quote zone
    quote zone 4 महीने पहले +4

    keys love his cricket he is so passionate about England's cricket ..

  • Titirsha Biswas
    Titirsha Biswas 4 महीने पहले +4

    Finally was waiting for it eagerly 🤟🤟

  • Stephen Greenwood
    Stephen Greenwood 4 महीने पहले

    I just wonder, having listened to these well thoughtout and well expressed comments, why am I hearing all this again! Why are people like these not listened to and another structure put in place ? How often have we heard these discussions over the years - as fans, we deserve better. Is it that we have those at the top that are not up to it?

  • John Lawrence
    John Lawrence 4 महीने पहले

    Great team Mic..., Nasser..., Rob Key.., & Ian...., have discussed in depth and broke the egg shell to unearth the areas requiring attention. You really have some very good players though not all in the present team that visited Australia. Test Cricket need good players who can adapt to all round situations. But above all I would suggest that you need to discreetly examine by means of friendly questionaires, the cohesiveness in the English team

  • Shahmi Anas
    Shahmi Anas 4 महीने पहले +13

    18:50 🤣 spot on. Data sport scientist geeks who haven't picked up a bat are involved in making key decisions. Too many cooks spoil the food!

    • SkySportsBaker
      SkySportsBaker 4 महीने पहले

      We use then wrong in test cricket in odi Morgan got a gut feeling in test cricket we lack the gut feeling

    • Aka Miguel Sanchez
      Aka Miguel Sanchez 4 महीने पहले

      Like Ben Jones and Nathan Leamon.

  • HkFinn83
    HkFinn83 4 महीने पहले +2

    I don’t buy that Silverwoods ‘rotation’ policy is all about players mental welfare. He’s still doing it now. Fifth test Anderson dropped again, while Woakes plays bowling throw downs at 60 runs per wicket. It seems like they’re just closing their eyes and picking random players. Look at the first test. Two best bowlers dropped in perfect conditions. There is no logic behind this and no reason has even been given. Silverwood still thinks he picked the correct team. He has to go and so would Root really, except there’s only him and Stokes who are going to play (unless they are rotated as well) so he will have to stay as captain.
    Edit I think Stokes would be a good captain, but he has recently taken a mental health break and made pretty clear in interviews he’s not interested in it.

  • bluesque
    bluesque 4 महीने पहले +7

    Get Shane Warne as the coach for this English side, if possible!!!

  • Manish Moothedath
    Manish Moothedath 4 महीने पहले

    When a test match ends before 5th day in the subcontinent a lot of questions arise about the quality of the pitch.
    In this series,
    1st test finishes in day 4 2nd session.
    3rd test in day 3 session 1
    5th test day 3 session 3
    No-one discussing about the quality of the pitch.

  • jeevak bala
    jeevak bala 4 महीने पहले

    Can we make these guys official commentators for all big series?

  • sparkitus 1988
    sparkitus 1988 4 महीने पहले

    If they wanted to pick the best side around i reckon there should be multiple selectors based within the set up, Head coach, Bowling Coach, Batting Coach and Team Doctor.
    Coaches give their decisions based on performance either in previous games, pitch types etc.
    Doctor to give medical advice solely based on facts and not asking a player "how do you feel?" (cause they could be missing half a limb and still want to play)
    And then the Head Coach to go through all the information given to them and put forward the best team for the game.
    Do this with 2 Coaching set ups, test and limited overs and the consistency and communication to the captain can then help them set up the team for the most success.

  • Robert K
    Robert K 4 महीने पहले +2

    No matter HOW many decades when England ever travels to Australia for an ashes series, they will ALWAYS be beaten... No question!

    • Lebowski53
      Lebowski53 4 महीने पहले

      We won in Australia in 2011.

  • Lax Doucette
    Lax Doucette 4 महीने पहले +4

    Been waiting for this since Hobart finished! Never clicked so hard 😂